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    So it's the first time ever I get Zbrush in my hands. Im trying to learn the program as I model this cyborg Darth Mual.

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    I started with a very low base mesh, and sculpted up to level 7, almost 3'000'000 polys. Screencatpure right here:

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    As you can see, the topology isn't quite perfect, so I decided to retopology the mesh. Fine, I started and I got to the hands... and dear god, that was impossible. So I decided take retopology (without hands) and export it to 3dsMax. Then I took the hands from the highres model (level2) and merged it with the retopology in Max. Fine, Now I have a nice mesh.


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    Allright. What I wanna do now, is bring this new mesh to Zbrush and "transfer" the details from the high res model (first screenshot) to the low res one (second picture). I have tried to Project it, just like here: http://www.zbrush.info/docs/index.ph...t_and_SubTools
    But the result are awfull. First of all, the mesh is strechted at some places, and it's not due to perspective distortion. And what is even worst, the topology is pretty messed up. Either I'm doing someting wrong here, or this isn't the solution. So if anyone knows a workaround, please tell me.
    Is there anyway to just tell Zbrush to use the low res mesh (picture 2) as the new topology?
    Well, thanks for your time, and I apologize for my english.

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    This is looking great, sorry I can't offer any technical help I couldn't get the zproject brush to work for me either and I've never tried the retopology tool. Hope someone can so I can see some more updates on this great looking model. Did you come up with the darth maulk cyborg yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdcstudios
    This is looking great, sorry I can't offer any technical help I couldn't get the zproject brush to work for me either and I've never tried the retopology tool. Hope someone can so I can see some more updates on this great looking model. Did you come up with the darth maulk cyborg yourself?
    Thanks! No, I didn't. I saw the illustration at the wookiepedia, and thought it would be cool to model. Perfect for my demoreel. The next thing I do in Zbrush will be designed by me.

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    I have done a lot of progress since the last time I posted and I have learned a lot so far. Right now I got some problems with the vray materials. The torso has 2 different materials. The black and the red skin. Both have been blended with a mask. And I had to use the traditional Blend material instead of the VRayBlendMtl, resulting in longer render times . If I use the VRayBlendMtl only one of the materials will show up. I have replaced the materials with other ones to check if it's the material's problem or if it's the mask's problem. It's definitely the material's problem. I have no clue why it won't work with the VRayBlendMtl.

    Anyway, the most important of the problems is how washy the textures look. The mask is perfectly sharp, but for some reason it looks somehow washed out. It looks awful. Does anyone have any idea how to solve this?
    Btw, I'm using 3dsmax.

    Once again, I apologize for my English.
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    Not sure what the mask problem is but your render time is way to high for such basic shaders/render. you could get the exact same look with scanline in 2 mins.
    nice model btw... couple of things i notice is his metal six pack is to fat and the model loses its dynamic. look at the pic. its real slender thin at the bottom stretching out to his sholders the widest part. can you see? also his pose is better in the pic, that has a dynamic look to it. if you sort the metal gut and repose i think this will be a good model ... keep up the good work
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    Wow... The Dark Side is here...

    Very Cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadedsoul
    Not sure what the mask problem is but your render time is way to high for such basic shaders/render. you could get the exact same look with scanline in 2 mins.
    nice model btw... couple of things i notice is his metal six pack is to fat and the model loses its dynamic. look at the pic. its real slender thin at the bottom stretching out to his sholders the widest part. can you see? also his pose is better in the pic, that has a dynamic look to it. if you sort the metal gut and repose i think this will be a good model ... keep up the good work
    The render times are so high because of the Blend Material I used. I have now fixed this and used a bitmap so there is no blending happening. My render time is down to 45 min. And I hope you didn't forget about the computer I'm using. It's a Pentium 4 @ 2,5Ghz. It's a 2002 computer! With a 2007 computer the rendering would be 20 times faster.
    About the dynamics... I actually decided to make him "fatter" as it seemed a bit more realistic. In the illustration, it has obviously a strong comic style, everything is very exagerated. I wanted to soften it without loosing the "V" shape, in order to achive a more realistic style. Thanks you very much for the C&C, tho!

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    Thanks!


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    Super cool!
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    Indeed! That's an awesome piece!
    Maybe you can do another render with that lightsaber activated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebcesoir
    Super cool!
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralElu
    Indeed! That's an awesome piece!
    Maybe you can do another render with that lightsaber activated
    Thanks a lot! I'll get that render for you as soon as I fix everything else

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    Aww man, you beat me to my future project!!! I was gunna do this version of Maul, haha!

    Well done though, it looks great! Keep it up.

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    Ever since I saw episode 1, I always believed that Maul would return, and with cyborg legs. Learning that he has, in fact, done so makes this is the greatest day of my life.

    Cool model, too. I like the wrist-wraps.

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    I was wondering what happened to ole Darth Maul, guess it's never really over as long as someone has a few spare parts lying around.
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    I have always loved Darth Maul and was sad when he was chopped in half. Thank you for bringing him back to life. You did and are doing a wonderful job repairing him from ILM's undoing of him. I hope to see him finished so the last of the Sith may live on.

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    very good version of darth as a cyborg.nice sculpture

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