Reproductor [monster nudity]

[Technogeist]

love it....

At last, somebody has got creative....

[Drummer]

Congrats Fede, te l'avevo detto che avresti spaccato con questo design
Again, top notch work, great attention to details and a very original and interesting design. Happy to finally see something that's not always a troll, a goblin or a hulk.

Eonsuu:

I respect what you said but I definitely don't agree. For two reasons, and I'll explain why:

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As for you Fede, bravo bravo bravo!

Fabrizio

I totally agree!
congratulations again to Fede!

[slocik]

Teach me your ways master !

[lodenfactory]

@Eonsuu:
I knew it would have been a disturbing concept and a difficult subject but after all this is exactly the vision I had in mind for my design.
I couldn't agree more with my friend Digitalfreaky, I share with him the same attitude to "art", and I mean art in it's more humile form. This creature can be disturbing, weird, sick and everything else and this was actually my purpose.
I didn't want to attract people cause of the long pe**s and I hope that this is how people perceived my design.
Anyway, these forums are precious because you can share a lot of different point of views besides the amazing sculptures so I'm glad to find honest people here... criticizing art it's just sharing emotions in a constructive way.

Thanks everyone again

[Eonsuu]

Eonsuu:

I respect what you said but I definitely don't agree. For two reasons, and I'll explain why:

First reason - As you just said, art exists in a moltitude of forms of expression and that's why it is so special and immortal.
Now, it's clear that the only thing that bugs you regarding the piece of my friend Federico it's the massive and long ***** that the creature has.
And I can understand this, since you are probably not the single person who could be "bugged" by this kind of sexual imagery.
But before shooting those type of comments I'd like you to read the inspiring and interesting story that Federico has invented BEFORE even starting to sculpt this creature.
I personally don't see anything that's really gross or disturbing. I'd rather be disturbed by Pyramid Head from Silent Hill or those rotten nurses squeeling at you.
And the Silent Hill it's even a stupid example
Look at some ancient paintings like "Saturn devouring his son" or "The Nightmare" by Fùssli. Disturbing and grotesque yet incredible pieces of art.
So putting this to an end (since it's getting long), try to capture what's "beyond" the pure design and feel inside the story of the character.
It will help you to win these "feelings" and you'll actually enjoy the experience since it will be like living inside a short or long film.

Second reason - I followed Federico during his design since he sent me a lot of wips of this creation and I am not thrilled to say that his artistic flexibility and his ability to create unique designs are really incredible and saying " Now please take your talent for the sick and twisted and do an even more weird character without a mega d*ng" or "had a look in your user gallery and homepage and saw some great characters without big genitals so why not make more of those" could be kind of offensive in a certain way. I'm sure you understand what I mean by this

So please re-consider studying this design and discovering why the creature exists in that form. Read the story from the artist, I'm sure you'll be entertained.
I hope I did not offend you by any means with my reply.
If so, I apologize, wasn't my purpose.

Fabrizio

Hmmm... I did miss his background story on page 3 and for that I apologise, not easy going through all pages looking for clues to the image. Reading the story (which is an great story in itself) I kind of understand the purpose of that "thing" with all it´s chains and weird as it seems I kind of feel sorry for the poor fella now... Guess Viagra was not an option for em

And for the way I expressed myself regarding the "sick and twisted" well it was meant in a positive way since I DO like sick and twisted things but guess it came out in a negative way. Sorry for that was meant in a good way...

And art is.....well art and as such it obeys no laws only the mind of it´s artist.

Dunno...perhaps I can blame my post on the heat we have here in Sweden right now... 32 degrees celsius in the shadow makes some swedes (including me) go nuts. And well... my english is ok but sometimes things come out the wrong way when not written in ones native language.

It´s 01.15 am now and much cooler outside so my brain is sort of starting to function again

@lodenfactory
Don´t take what I wrote personally... I did not like that particular piece of art from you that´s all and as you as an artist are well aware of... Art will always be liked by some and disliked by others... Keep up the great work, you show lot´s of talent and perhaps I should post something myself before commenting on others work But to be honest no background story in the world will change my mind regarding my first impressions...and they still last.

[stimpack]

Love it. ***** and all. Would love to see more of this style.

[Pride]

Maybe you're inspiration came from this gentalman's name?...

[MikeC]

Everyone seems so transfixed by this guy’s slong!

How many of you have gone to art school? Or studied art history?

I'm sure plenty of you have and realize that nudity is fairly common... in fact how many boobs have we seen in this forum proudly displayed by the artist that lovingly sculpted them?

I think it's a mute point to say one form of nudity is inappropriate (guys below the belt) or what is (women with as big a bongos as possible) because nothing you could do hasn't been done in one way shape or form at some point or another.

I tend to think violence is far more destructive to the human psyche then a fictional (or non fictional) dork.


The fear of offending others is the suppression of ones creativity.

So there!

Good job man! I'm impressed by the work and by the forum for allowing it to stay up! I hope it incites others to push the limits!

Rock on!

[Jester]

Personally, I don't like it at all. I see lot of details (that doesn't impress me in general), but what I see is a sick moster. It is told that nudity is generally accepted in art, and I agree with it the most. But if you see, most of artistic nudes are celebrating the beauty of the human body.
First of all, I am really bored by the mosters. Second, the image makes displeasing mock of the human body, and makes really bad association of love, and so on.

Technically it may be excellent (though I'm not impressed by monsters at all), but the subject is really controversial. And I am not a blind, narrowminded, snob, I defend oDDity's nude image on the cgtalk. The subject makes a lot of difference.

I hope your next image will be technically equally excellent but the subject more pleasing.

[HellGrind]

And an other one shocked...

Who saids that art was done to be pleasing ? If art was always nice, soft and gentle, it will be very boring. Look at some Francis Bacon's paintings, everything looks sad, disgusting... And this is why it's powerfull.

[Intervain]

to be honest HellGrind the person before you didn't' seem shocked at all but rather not at all impressed with the subject matter [he doesn't have to like what you do, you know]... I think that's the point of art - not everybody has to like it... [I don't either but it's far from shocking in my book - it's rather hoping to be and failing in the act] Bacon is often disgusting but that doesn't make him shocking either [not in this century any way].

[Jester]

Art must be expressive. At this point I see nothing, but a pointless illustration of huge dick. Sorry.

It could be art in thousands of way. For example without exposing the huge genitalia directly. It could more interesting. Like direct closeups of widespread legs are not as interesting as well lit nudes, that are foreshadowing what is really there. I, as the observer of this image, can do only one thing, to tell him that I like it or not, and why. I am not shocked.

And I am not shocked. And don't mention famous painters, etc. They were compositioning an image with hundreds of small hints on their images, each of them had special meaning.

[HellGrind]

Well well, "shocked" wasn't the good word.

Anyway i still disagree with you Jester, where you see a pointless illustration, i see a semi-human creature wich tells me a story. I understand why you dislike the piece, but i still think that there is no one way to do art.

[Jester]

Now I can't agree with you more. That's true. By the way, for some reason, that creature reminds me to Clive Baker's Weaveworld. Anyway, being a man, I don't like too much viewing men's genitalias, especially where that is the focus of an image with a twist.

[MikeC]

If any art creates interest or controversy then it's done its job.

This one will stick with people and honestly isn't that what we all want from our own art?

With so many technical achievements in the ZBrush Forum it's good to see art being displayed with meaning and purpose. That's important to me.

I didn't notice the creature’s long dong until after the gapping hole for a mouth... then the chains and finally his beaver catcher.

For me whether or not someone likes it isn't the point. Being able to post it is.